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AGONY>>> AGONY>>> = Mussina how much longer do we have to be tortured with this guy, what do the people in the front office see in this gutless, eighty mph throwing soft ball pitcher. I sit on my couch with a seat belt and hockey gear on when this Xanax looking bum takes the mound . Send him to the funeral parlor host ,Torre!!! They look great together.Mussina PLEASE if you read this, retire, you took enough money from baseball. go out with dignity, You were once great!! Its over . Or ask for a trade to the N.L. Your Embarrassing yourself.. Every body that gets up is swinging from thier heels.They cant believe they get out on occassion. This years contract is about half paid Hank ,Hal, Cash... George .. Eat the rest of it , send him home, Mussina is the real Yankee killer, not Manny .I seen Manny in the dugout pacing like a lion who had not eaten in months ,waiting to get up.. WE DID THIS LAST YEAR ,PLEASE CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE>> Take our manager off the hook, MUSSINA fall on your SWORD> Go out with honor...

At this point, I understand the disappointment, when good pitchers get old, they usually don't let go.

When great pitchers get old, they become merely good (Maddux, Glavine). Shame really, it was painful even as a Sox fan to watch him and get butchered by the YES network guys.

was it too difficult to ship Moose to Philly this off-season for a bucket of balls and a lolipop? Its sad that his career has come to this, although I dont think we would care/notice if IPK and Hughes pitched well and Moose would be the #5 starter we wanted him to be, rather than being the de-facto #3. I remember during his last contract push he came to spring training after working out in the winter and was touching 90-91 for the first half of the season, but now I think he knows he is done and has given up the ghost. Plus, and i hate to say this - he is getting paid back for NEVER defending a Yankee when they were plunked, and now you have these gigantic players leaning out over the plate and sitting on his off speed pitches, knowing they can dial it up to hit an 86mph fastball anytime without the fear of being brushed-back. Sayonara Moose - it was fun while it lasted

It was so much his lack of heat as it was his lack of command. Or better yet, the combo of both.

At least on the Red Sox broadcast, they pointed out that Mussina was missing his target all night long. That 2nd one was way too inside on Manny. If he paints the corners, like he use to, then he has a chance.

Yeah, the Moosed moosed it up with Manny and got dinged up.

Odd idea: move him to the bullpen, see if his results are better when he knows he only needs 3 to 6 outs. It makes a huge difference in how you approach the game.

The problem with shipping him out/moving him to the bullpen is who do you replace him in the rotation with? I'm all for it if I could think of a better alternative. Freddy Garcia is still a FA, he won't be back until later this season, but would it kill the Yanks to take a flier on him?

I've been thinking exactly the same thing about Garcia since Spring Training -- I hope they take a careful look at him when he "auditions" in June or so.

It is sad to see how far Mussina has fallen. He was a fine pitcher -- not a great pitcher, not, IMHO, an HOFer, but a damn good one. When he retires and looks back on his career, I think he can take justifiable pride in his accomplishments. But to beat the best AL lineups, you can't get away with this cutesy stuff. Mussina might do better with, say, the Padres, where they have much more of a pitcher's park and generally face weaker NL lineups. But even that might not cut it at this point -- he's getting clocked, and it's taking a toll on the bullpen. It can't help the team's psyche, either. If he is going to get creamed every time out, the remaining starters have to be damned near perfect to preserve the bullpen. With Hughes and IPK still developing, that's clearly not the case.

The funny thing is that when I listen to him getting clobbered on the radio, or read about him getting clobbered in the papers, I get so damn POed at him, but then I'll read others ripping him on websites, and I don't feel POed anymore -- I just feel pity. I cringe. If he can't do it anymore, he needs to hang 'em up. I'm almost wanting them give his slot to Igawa. No wait. I don't mean that. I can't mean that. Give it to Rasner, instead.

Greg- Please don't use the "I word"! I feel bad about Mussina sometimes, but then when he tells Girardi he wants to challenge Manny (last Saturday) my sympathy turns to anger.