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Yep - agree with everything you typed Peter.

The trick is going to be how to ramp Hughes up cause you can't predict how long a starter is going to throw. Pettitte seems to be a 5 full innings guy, maybe Hughes throws the 6th and 7th every five days and then the 6th, 7th and 8th as the season prgresses and then Hughes "starts starting" by August. It works mathematically but this game has way of screwing up your math sometimes.

To me this is a no-brainer. I rather start the year with Chad G as the 5th man if that's what it takes to protect the 1-2 punch of hughes/rivera. I'm not convinced that Hughes will ever be an effective starter in the MLB, let alone in 2010; but he can make a nice career for himself as a power reliever.

Evan i feel the same way..also joba in the pen ,bring up melancon, Mo may be gone this year...starters this year back to the pen next year.. leave those two in the pen ,great power arm to set up mo..

BWPS, you may be right about Joba... I'm conflicted myself. But I agree with Peter, he's beginning this year as a starter whether we like it or not. That said, priority number one is getting a number 5 not named Phil Hughes. Justin duscherer may be a great solution if he comes cheap enough, although I haven't heard anything about what he's expecting. They prob won't spend too much on him w/ the clinical depression... besides, AJ already has the headcase position filled!!

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Peter - please forgive this random thought relative to the thread's content but I wanted to throw this out for comment:

In Grandy's introduction to the media he said some things that I think run (more than a bit) counter to the current Jeter "credo" of winning is everything, every win, every ground ball, every swing of the bat is precious.

To paraphrase: Grandy indicated that he doesn't take an out or even a loss personally cause there's always another at bat, always another game coming. I think that the Captain will probably find some quiet moment to give Grandy a proper introduction to what is really expected when a player steps onto the biggest stage in baseball. Yep, I can almost guarantee that conversation will happen.

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Evan that was pretty funny, love a person with a sense of humor. comingled with the truth . Grienke suffered from the same problem i believe, look what he did... yes i think he would come cheap.. sheets as we know whats 12mil.. i wonder if he suffers from some other ailment ..like delusions.i was sure they would have taken lackey and pass on damon..but now we must juggle,

Mitchell how about grandy telling that to a baseball player like Oniel. on that team... i hope jeter jumps him now and not wait for the season to get to fla. surprised someone would say that.. he may belong in SD or LA.. the yankee core will address it ,i think jorge first..

I think that Cashman will shy away from Duscheurer (sp?) cause it takes an unusually self-confident arm to hold up under the NYC spotlight - and that's not this guy, at all.

I think that Phil has what it takes, mentally and emotionally, to be a better starter than Joba - from what I've seen. Phil just needs to trust the cutter and/or bring a 2 seamer in addtion to his 4 seamer so he gives the bats different things to think about. Joba, on the other hand, needs to extract his head from his uh, um, well, his other end.

BWP? That's a very funny image you've conjured about Grandy saying something like that to "Paulie" - makes me think of Granderson wearing a water cooler like a skirt. LOL

don't we all miss paulie..we got mondesi after him ??? remember his last contract i believe 7mil per.. could have walked for mils more but wanted to stay a yankee... Hmmmm.maybe paulie should give both grandy and johnny calls..